Elizabeth Weintraub • Sacramento Short Sale Agent • Land Park

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You Might Vote PNC the Worst Short Sale Bank But PNC Bank Has a Strategy, You Can Count on It

It seems like every time that I list a PNC short sale in Sacramento, buyer's agents don't want to deal with it. They tell me to my face they won't work on a PNC short sale. That's a little bit disturbing. Because PNC approves short sales. Not all of them, and maybe not even 50% of them, but they do often get approved. Especially non-recourse PNC short sales in California.

See, with a non-recourse short sale, the bank, in second position, gets nothing in the event of foreclosure. Maybe the bank gets some money from the government for a foreclosure but not from the trustee or the first lender. I know that lawyers are concerned it's possible the FDIC is funding foreclosures for banks with taxpayer monies, but I have no idea if that's true. I do know that a PSA often make it very profitable for banks to go through foreclosure because PSAs make money either way.

Lately, though, I've been getting a very strange message from PNC on non-recourse seconds. I get the same email over and over. This is not a one-time occurrence. PNC wants to know if the sellers, the buyers or the agents would give them more money. PNC says it is not "rejecting" the short sale, even though it is. So, that tells me there are lawyers advising PNC to be careful with the language it uses so the government won't see that PNC is, indeed, rejecting short sales.

Because agents are broke, buyer's lenders won't let buyers contribute and, because of SB 458, it's against the law for the seller to contribute. Sellers with purchase money loans are not giving PNC any money and PNC knows it. There is always a very small fragmented chance that the first lender might cough up a little bit more than $6,000 or 6%, but it's not really very likely.

So, what is PNC's angle? Why is PNC rejecting these non-recourse short sales? Who is paying them?

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Elizabeth Weintraub is an author, home buying columnist for The New York Times-owned About.com, a Land Park resident, and a Land Park real estate agent who specializes in older, classic homes in Land Park, Curtis Park, Midtown and East Sacramento. Weintraub is also a Sacramento Short Sale agent who lists and successfully sells short sales throughout the four-county Sacramento area. Call Elizabeth Weintraub at 916.233.6759. Put 35 years of real estate experience to work for you. Broker-Associate at Lyon Real Estate. DRE License # 00697006.

The Short Sale Savior, by Elizabeth Weintraub, available at Amazon.com.

Lyon Real Estate is not associated with the government, and our service is not approved by the government or your lender. Even if you accept this offer and use our service, your lender may not agree to change your loan.

Photo: Unless otherwise noted in this blog, the photo is copyrighted by Big Stock Photo and used with permission.

The views expressed herein are Weintraub's personal views and do not reflect the views of Lyon Real Estate.

Disclaimer: If this post contains a listing, information is deemed reliable as of the date it was written. After that date, the listing may be sold, listed by another brokerage, canceled, pending or taken temporarily off the market, and the price could change without notice. It could blow up, explode or vanish. To find out the present status of any listing, please go to elizabethweintraub.com.

 

PNC Tells Another Short Sale Seller to Go Pound Sand

pnc short saleIf I am going to lose a short sale to foreclosure in Sacramento, odds are that short sale is probably with PNC Bank. I'll tell you why. Out of my last bunch of short sales with PNC, only one of them closed. Those are really lousy odds. Whereas my odds with a Bank of America short sale are much higher. I'm not 100% sure because I haven't checked, but my off-the-head guess would be I lose maybe 1 out of every 25 Bank of America short sales. My success ratio at getting to the approval stage with my Sacramento short sales is pretty high.

But what's with PNC? I know that PNC will do a short sale because I have done them. I'm not even talking about the original National City loans. Albeit, every single one of those PNC short sales was a battle and felt like going to war against the Taliban. Not that I have any personal experience with the Taliban, mind you. But I have found that PNC often demands a seller contribution, and that contribution is often astronomical as compared to requests from other banks.

A potential seller with a Campus Commons home called me last night to talk about doing a short sale. He has a first mortgage with PNC. It's not owner occupied. The loan has been refinanced, and it's a cash-out refi. His hardship letter will probably not reveal any severe fall-backs. He's pretty much hosed. I'm not saying it's impossible for him to do a short sale, but if he tries, he will probably pay for the privilege. Because it's PNC.

The last short sale PNC rejected was yesterday, a situation involving 2 purchase money loans with PNC, a first mortgage and a second mortgage. The seller documented her financial hardship. The first mortgage offered $3,000 to the second. The second demanded $8,000. The first would not let the seller -- nor anyone else -- contribute to the second mortgage. The lawyers pointed to California Code of Civil Procedure (C.C.P.) 580b, that should the first mortgagee foreclose, that lender would not be entitled to a deficiency judgment because both liens are purchase money loans.

Moreover, the lawyers argued, the California Supreme Court has ruled that when a senior and a junior loan are held by the same institution, the junior lender cannot consider themselves "sold out." As such, the junior lender is barred from recovery. Because both the senior lien holder and the junior lien holder are PNC Mortgage, you can't "sell out" a client who is also PNC.

But that's exactly what PNC did. PNC pretty much told the lawyers (excuse my language): Screw you and the horse you road in on. The negotiators at PNC are guerillas, abrupt and not very polite. Where does PNC hire these employees from? The World Wrestling Federation?

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Certified HAFA Specialistelizabeth weintraub

 

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Elizabeth Weintraub reviews My Sacramento Real Estate Listings

Elizabeth Weintraub is an author, home buying columnist for The New York Times-owned About.com, a Land Park resident, and a Land Park real estate agent who specializes in older, classic homes in Land Park, Curtis Park, Midtown and East Sacramento. Weintraub is also a Sacramento Short Sale agent who lists and successfully sells short sales throughout the four-county Sacramento area. Call Elizabeth Weintraub at 916.233.6759. Put 35 years of real estate experience to work for you. Broker-Associate at Lyon Real Estate. DRE License # 00697006.

The Short Sale Savior, by Elizabeth Weintraub, available at Amazon.com.

Lyon Real Estate is not associated with the government, and our service is not approved by the government or your lender. Even if you accept this offer and use our service, your lender may not agree to change your loan.

Photo: Unless otherwise noted in this blog, the photo is copyrighted by Big Stock Photo and used with permission.

The views expressed herein are Weintraub's personal views and do not reflect the views of Lyon Real Estate.

Disclaimer: If this post contains a listing, information is deemed reliable as of the date it was written. After that date, the listing may be sold, listed by another brokerage, canceled, pending or taken temporarily off the market, and the price could change without notice. It could blow up, explode or vanish. To find out the present status of any listing, please go to elizabethweintraub.com.